Episode 4

Join Hannah and her mom, Debra — a retired therapist and social worker — as they open up about their shared journey through grief after losing Ian. In this raw and heartfelt conversation, they talk about the tough parts of loss, the moments that tested their strength, and the ways they continue to heal. Through personal stories and a mother’s reflective perspective, they share what it means to live with grief, support one another, and keep Ian’s memory alive.